Climbing in Red Rock Canyon, Best Crags for Kids

View of Wake up wall looking back toward the trail/approach.

Red Rock Canyon Climbing Areas

On our recent trip to Red Rock Canyon, we went. . . wait for it. . . . WITHOUT KIDS.  Yes, it was our first climbing trip together without kids in six years.  Throughout the seven days of climbing, we hit every remote sport crag we hadn’t yet hit (or so it seemed at the time).  It was quite liberating to pick an area with no regard to the length or difficulty of the approach.  Nor did we look at the exposure/cliffside drop offs that would be typical “no no’s” with kids.

That being said, we do have some idea of what would be the better crags for kids.  Of course, unless you are hauling the extra 20-40 lbs of kid and the extra 15 lbs of gear, you don’t quite understand how long an approach really seems with kids in tow.

As usual, our “kid friendly” suggestions have nothing to do with the quality or ratings of the climbs so much as the approach difficulty, length, and the kid friendly nature of the landing/staging area. These suggestions are all sport climbing areas specific to the first three pullouts of Red Rock Canyon Park and Calico Basin (combing from Vegas, the turn before the entrance to Red Rocks).  Note: we do not review any area that we did not visit, so if an area is not on this list, it may well be great. . . we just didn’t get there!

Best Crag with Kids:

1. Cannibal Crag – in Calico Basin. Short approach from the car. Bathrooms just down the hill. Relatively flat boulders at the landing area.  A small toddler might need hands on supervision but a young child would be fine.  Relative high density of climbs with various ratings.

2.  The Black Corridor – Second Pullout.  The lower area is flat and shaded with little room for kids to find trouble.  Great density of climbs with various ratings.  Approach on this is a bit of a challenge, but with an assist for kids, it is doable.  Only issue is the traffic (if high traffic day, too many people will make this area less appealing with kids).

3.  The Pier – Sandstone Quarry.  Caveat: There are bees in this area during certain seasons/times.  If you go via the correct approach, the approach is pretty basic.  High density of climbs in the 5.11/5.12 range.  The area, like the Black Corridor, is self contained and relatively flat.  Important: stay inside the Pier as there is a large fall at the downhill side.

4. Wake up Wall – Sandstone Quarry.  Relatively short, flat approach (easy).  Landing/Staging area is large and flat – great place for kids to explore.  Near the actual wall, there is a small “trough” between the wall and the landing area.  This drop is probably 5-8 feet deep, but would not pose a serious concern for most parents/kids.  Relative high density of climbs in a wide range from 5.8-5.12.

Worst Crags with Kids:

1. Panty Wall – Steep Drop off

2. Cut your Teeth Crag – Long LONG hike in, uphill.

Others Red Rock Canyon Areas Reviewed

Areas that will work with kids but may not be perfect, or good for non toddlers, or kids with moderate supervision.

1. Coco Wall – Calico Basin. Short approach, boulders and uneven landing/staging area.

2. Gallery/Wall of Confusion – Second Pullout.  Bouldery, somewhat long and bouldery approach. Some areas are flat and enclosed, some have a large drop off. Depends mainly on the kid. . .and where you are planning to climb (far left is better).

3. Mass Production – Sandstone Quarry.  Easy hike in with a bit of scrambling up hill at the very end.  The last 15 feet up are in the boulders against the rock. Toddlers and young children would have some trouble as there is limited flat ground and mostly larger scree and boulders at the landing.  The wall is completely on a hill, so all landing areas are also hilly/steep.  Fine for our five year old but our 3 year old might have been a danger to herself.

4. Sunny and Steep Wall – Craft Mountain, Calico Basin. Long hike in and some scrambling to get there.  If you can live with the approach the area surrounding the rock was flat and good for kids.  Numerous climbs of various ratings including some great routes from 5.8 – 5.12.

5. Conundrum Wall – Craft Mountain, Calico Basin.  Shorter approach than Sunny and Steep, moderate distance, mostly flat. Landing area is uneven and bouldery but there were some good places to hang out and no drop offs.

Remember that this is just a guide and in no way replaces your own reconnaissance, instinct, and decision making.

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Up by Patricia Ellis Herr


My recent climbing trip (and flight) across the country gave me ample time to read a book anxiously sitting at the top of my “to read” list, Up: A Mother and Daughter’s Peakbagging Adventure.  As a mother to two young children and an avid hiker, climber, and camper, the story has a particular appeal.  To start, the book is written by a stay at home mother of two young girls, Patricia Ellis Herr.  At the start of her tale, Patricia, while an outdoor parent, was not (so far as I can tell) a mountaineering expert.  Nor was she a trained hiking or outdoor professional.   Throughout the story, you see that the hikes taken by Patricia and her talented daughter Alex progressively advance into higher mileage, elevation increases, terrain, overnight trips, and varied weather conditions.

Some things that I love about the book: 1) Patricia teaches her daughter that you should not be limited by gender, size, or age.  2) The lessons learned aren’t only about accomplishment (getting to the top) but are also about the journey, experience, and the learning process itself.  3) Our children can only benefit from the education, confidence, self sufficiency and appreciation for the outdoors that adventures such as peakbagging bestow. 4) The reminder that though others should not judge what one parent chooses for their children, they often (wrongly) do.

From a reader’s perspective, the writing is consistent with hiking peaks such as those in New Hampshire.  Some stories seem to run together, some hikes are not so memorable, and some adventures are completely event free  . . .The beauty of both hiking and Up is the truth that it gives to those uneventful moments, when the most amazing things happen, moments wherein the beauty lies in the “lack of” an action or event.  The prose itself is very well done, and the story of Hugh Herr in the midst is integrated well and quite poignant, particularly for those who already know the story.

The most thought provoking and surprising piece of the tale, for me, is in Patricia’s desire to homeschool Alex & Sage (her younger daughter).  She writes “I wanted to give my children the opportunity of a truly individualized education, I didn’t want to lose them to peer pressure and group think and low academic standards.” I find it interesting that this one quote is so judgmental, when so much of the rest of the book seems open minded and accepting, encouraging others to accept her choices for her children.  She follows it up by saying that she is not one to prescribe her values on others, but I was taken aback by that one statement, that one harsh judgment of the educational system and traditional education.  This one quote poses the only surprise for me, as I believe that this judgment comes across little different from the judgment that Patricia and Alex are subject to in their travels…people who believe that Alex shouldn’t be hiking such tall peaks.

I believe that there are values in both homeschooling and traditional education.  I also believe that we can teach our children to avoid group think through our actions, activities, and family values, while operating within a traditional schooling environment.  I love the idea that we can show our children the amazing things they can do, while also introducing them to nature and educating them on self sufficiency.  I appreciate Patricia’s eloquence in communicating this last piece.  For all of these reasons, I greatly enjoyed reading Up and I look forward to reading more about Patricia, Alex and Sage, as I’m quite sure that they aren’t done learning, hiking, or sharing.

Purchase the electronic version or print version of Up . Electronic  - Up: A Mother and Daughter’s Peakbagging Adventure.  Print - Up: A Mother and Daughter’s Peakbagging Adventure

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Parent Only Vacation

You may have noticed that we usually take our kids everywhere.  When it comes to vacationing, we’re firm believers that there’s nothing as valuable as spending time as a family doing something that we love in the outdoors.  But. . . . Well, even those of us who take our kids everywhere, occasionally need to spend time on a vacation without kids.

So after six years, my husband and I are taking off to parts unknown (i.e. Las Vegas) to go climbing in Red Rock Canyon.  Without our two kids.  It will be quite the reminder of days gone past, as we plan to do the many things that having kids in tow does not allow.

1. We’ll climb from sun up to sun down.

2. We’ll share gear evenly (and without extra packs/gear for kids).

3. We will plan out some challenging projects that we can work for hours at a time.

4. We will be taking a day to go canyoneering (weather permitting).

5. We can use the jacuzzi after a hard day of climbing.

6. We’ll eat dinner late and at non kid friendly restaurants.

7. We will only be responsible for ourselves, so we can relax and go “off duty”. . .

The kids are extremely excited to spend the week at their grandparent’s.  I’m the only one stressing. Perhaps someone should have told me that a week is a long time. . .but my son has already reminded me that he can always call me on the ipad.

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Rock & Ice Ascent – Words to Live by

In the 2012 issue of the recently revived “Ascent” newly under the Rock & Ice publication umbrella, one particular article provided the perfect combination of literary strength and personal relevance.  It was beautiful, poignant, and real all at the same time.  The following excerpt from an article (“The Ones Who Go High”) by John Long made me think of the many ascent photos I have with my husband both before and after kids (much more in the former than the latter category).

Plain as day. We were five days clawing up El Capitan.  I put the camera on timer and set it on a rock for a summit photo, an age-old tradition in climbing.  We both were lighter, emptied out by the adventure.  Moby Dick, the great white pig (haulbag), weighed more than Jill did. I fell 30 feet on the final headwall.  Whether we smiled from joy or relief is an excellent question, but an action shot could never show us like this.  Later that year we got married.  Then came jobs, titles, fights, barbecues, miscarriages, beer, mortgages, ski trips, twin girls, wine, flings, separations, bankruptcy, reconciliation, windfalls, awards and commendations, graduations, funerals, bourbon and those desolate times stuck in traffic, wondering what if and how come, moments when we struggled to recognize our own lives.  But in two or 20 years, or whenever we dig out this old summit photo, we know one thing immediately and for sure: That’s us, plain as day.

Thank you, Ascent, (and Rock and Ice), for reminding me that our experience, as a climbing couple living in the real world with jobs, and kids, houses and more is not a solitary existence.  This is not an experience for the masses, but there are others like us.  When we travel to Red Rock Canyon this week – without the kids (for the first childless vacation in 6 years),  I’ll be sure to get a photo of the two of us. . . showing that we can do some really great things together, both on and off the ground.

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Access Fund, Kids at the Crag

I was recently interviewed by the Access Fund’s Laura Snider about taking kids to the crag.  Click here to view the entire Access Fund Vertical Times (Spring) issue.

Kids at the Crag

Cala at Yosemite

There were three main points that I think that Snider ddressed quite well, in a limited amount of time.
1. Children’s Safety
2. Love of Climbing
3. Methods/Best Practices for Success

In particular, I believe that there were a few points worth discussing in further detail. Snider mentioned (though not explicitly,) two methods to climbing with kids. One method – climb in groups with atleast 3 adults. One adult is then always available to monitor, assist, and entertain the child. Method two – lower expectations for a “long” day of climbing. Since child safety, entertainment, & assistance is the priority and climbing is the secondary goal, parents climbing with only two adults must adjust expectations for their day.

Both of these methods can be successful and enjoyable and neither (or both) are the “correct” way to take kids climbing. I’ll address other points from Laura’s article in upcoming posts.

What did you think of her article and the different approaches to kids at the crag? Would you add anything?

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22 Month Old Bouldering Video Making the Rounds

Okay, so many of you (or most of you) have already seen this video, making the rounds of YouTube, the morning news, and Facebook. I thought I’d identify some quick “Pluses” and “Concerns” from the brief video. . . No judgment here, just my perspective.
1. Flooring. If that’s a crash pad, yay. . . otherwise, -1 point.
2. Use of Toys as incentive. A great way to motivate without “making them climb” against their will. +4 points.
3. Video taping. Way to preserve the moment for prosperity. +1 point.
4. Apparent Lack of Spot. Unless their is some magic camera/people positioning going on here, there doesn’t seem to be much of a spot. Height of falling would be the equivalent of a 6 foot person falling 12 -15 feet. A pretty nice drop for a mini. -10 points.

 

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Safe Harbor Access Open!

Safe Harbor, The New “New”.  Or Not.

It was quite the hullabaloo in November of 2011, when it became clear that the Safe Harbor Climbing area in south central Pennsylvania would become open to the public once again.  Largely due to the hard work and dedication of some local climbers, this once-popular east coast climbing destination (restricted for almost twenty years) was reopened for public access. .  .and not just public access, but CLIMBING access.  Yay!

This area is a great place for locals to come with their young kids.  Now, don’t get me wrong, the climbing is mostly slab and/or vertical, and the rock tends to be slow to dry out.   On the upside, it is located in central PA, less than 15 minutes from the Maryland border and only 25 minutes from our house.

The approach is only 15-20 (flat) minutes. Most of the approach is a wide-open stone trail (jogging stroller friendly, if you can believe it!).  The area at the base of the rock is flat and wide open.   The rock is south facing, so it is a perfect locale for a winter, fall, or cool spring day of climbing. . . not so much for mid day summer sun (scorching!).

If this sounds appealing, check out the guidebook, written by our own Eric Horst.  Want to get involved?  Join the Safe Harbor Facebook group. Parking is an issue, so be sure to follow the guidebook and/or check out the group for more information.  As always, donate to the Access Fund to help keep this and other climbing areas open.

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Video, First Outdoor Toprope. Rumney NH, Age 4

Toproping at the Meadows in Rumney NH

The climbing at the Meadows area in Rumney NH worked out extremely well for us.  The primary reason for our success was this beautiful “high ball” slab facing the main Meadows climbing routes.

As you can see from the video, we were able to put the kids in harnesses & belay them from above, one at a time (with the occasional rescue of/for Cala who wanted to climb without a rope.)  It was a great time, with some fantastic memories of our first all family sport/rope climbing trip!

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Kid Friendly at Rumney?

Our family vacation took us to Rumney for three great climbing days.   We arrived on Wednesday and set up camp at Baker River Campground.  The campground alone was worth the trip, as we walked out of the back of our site and into a beach area and the river, a child’s paradise!  Between the buckets and shovels, the tubes we had purchased for $4 at Pawtuckaway, and the random stick found by our kids, the beach and river were a wonderful playground.

After a brief break to set up camp and play at the beach, we decided to take a drive to the climbing area and come up with a plan for the next day.  We’ve found that “getting there” (to a kid-friendly climbing area with the kids in tow) can be an all day affair.  To avoid hiking around aimlessly with the kids (and wasting valuable climbing time), we try to do a lot of preliminary research and some scouting of areas ahead of time, so as to cut back on the energy and time spent exploring rather than climbing.  In this case, it worked out perfectly, as we found that the hike up to the Parking Lot Wall area and the Meadows was do able (and close enough to the truck and the bathrooms for going back for food and/or adult bathroom breaks sans kids).   Once we checked out the Parking Lot Wall (not flat enough for the kids to hang out), we moved to the Meadows.  Jackpot!  This had a great flat area away from the climbing (so as not to bother others) and some routes that we were excited to get on.

The best part of the Meadows is the slab that faces the main wall.  It is perfect for sitting atop and body belaying young kids.  They climbed more than ever before, due to this great feature!

Note to parents: When picking an area in which to climb,  many parents try to pick an area based on what they want to climb. For us (and with our small kids), we try to pick an area that is safe for the kids, and then find something to climb in that area.  When asking others for advice on where to climb with kids, be sure to clarify your priorities.

  • Do you need someplace for the kids to climb?
  • Do you want someplace safe for them to play?
  • Do you want to find an easy approach?
  • What ratings/routes you prefer?

In this case, the Meadows fit the bill for someplace safe with an easy approach. Bonus, there was fun stuff for the kids to do/climb, too!

Check back for more on the Meadows and the rest of our Rumney adventure!

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Pawtuckaway New Hampshire Climbing

Our climbing vacation in New Hampshire started in Pawtuckaway State Park, an area known for some of the best bouldering in the Northeast. Let me start with the fact that we loved the P-way campground. The sites were nice, the area was scenic, and the restrooms/showers were well-kept. We particularly appreciated the lake that was within walking distance of our campsite. We were able to climb in the mornings and hang out at the lake in the afternoons for the two days that we were at the park.
The New England Bouldering guidebook recommends that you avoid the Black Fly season as well as be aware of the summer mosquitoes.  As advertised, the mosquitoes were the primary negative of the P-way portion of our trip.

On the first day of bouldering at P-way, we went to Round Pond and the Round Pond Bouldering area.  (Family photo taken at an overlook of Round Pond immediately below the main Round Pond Bouldering area).  Note to those driving sedans and sports cars, the vehicular approach to the bouldering areas is quite the off road adventure.  We had our Diesel F250 and we quite enjoyed the large puddles and big bumps.  At one point, we had the kids “hold” their heads on their necks so that they didn’t get whiplash.  Ah, the fun!  You can walk a few miles in and/or mountain bike in, should you prefer to keep your car on the paved roads.

There were a number of great routes to climb in the Round Pond area and the kids did quite well with both the short approach and hanging out at the flat areas around the boulders.  There were even a number of kid-sized boulders that made for some fun climbing.   The bad part of Round Pond (for this part of the year) was that there had been a lot of rain in the weeks before our trip, and the mosquitoes were vicious!  We used Natrapel (20% Picaradin) which worked quite well, but bug spray can only do so much.  Side note: when we ran out of Natrapel and switched to OFF Family (5% Picaradin), we found the OFF much less effective.

After bouldering at Round Pond for a while, we hiked back to the truck and went back to the campsite.  R & C loved the lake and spent a good bit of time swimming and playing in the sand before heading back to the site to cook.  All in all, our first full day at P-way was a success and taught us some quick lessons for our next trip.

  • Lesson 1: Don’t try to get the kids to bed until they are actually tired.
  • Lesson 2: Food/snacks add hours to the time you can stay out. Pack many snacks.  They will ALL be eaten before you head home.
  • Lesson 3: Reward climbing time with something “just” for them.  It makes the climbing time fun and gives them something to look forward to after hours of hiking/climbing.
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